Podcast: Harley Thomas on digital assets and asset recovery

We spoke about the US landmark crypto currency lawsuit – Ripple, the UK Digital Assets Bill and Harley’s work in tracing and recovering digital assets.

In this episode, GRIP’s commissioning editor Jean Hurley spoke with Harley Thomas, a forensic accountant and senior investigator at Martin Kenney & Co, to discuss the US crypto lawsuit – Ripple, digital assets regulation in the UK, digital currency use in illicit finance and asset tracing.

We discussed:

  • The US Ripple lawsuit and why the outcome of this case will affect the future of cryptocurrency regulation in US. Also see A landmark lawsuit is sending ‘ripples’ through the world of cryptocurrency and The Ripple effect: SEC files Notice of Appeal in case against Ripple
  • Other cases involving digital assets in US Courts including SEC v Terraform Labs and SEC v LBRY, which concern interpretations of the Howey Test while contributing to a broader regulatory framework that may apply to other crypto tokens in the future. Also see Terraform and CEO charged with defrauding investors in multi-billion crypto schemes.
  • The UK’s Digital Assets Bill and how it will shape the ownership of crypto tokens in the UK.
  • Harley’s work in asset recovery and the differences between tracing digital and assets held in traditional bank account including:
    • pseudonymity and privacy in cyptocurrencies;
    • blockchain transparency and complexity;
    • lack of central authority;
    • cross-border transactions;
    • use of mixers and tumblers; and
    • custodial vs. non-custodial wallets.
  • The role of banks in tracing digital assets.
  • Crypto currency and illicit finance.
  • Use of AI and machine learning as an aid to asset tracing.

A transcript of this podcast is available here.